That 50% just completely failing terrifies me. The program looks for students who are self-motivated and have a guided sense of purpose. Alumni network and name recognition are very important to me. Each Columbia MBA application submitted usually passes through three rounds of internal review. [–]Klaud91st Year 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (5 children). Please note this server is unaffiliated with /r/MBA . [–]puggles323 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (1 child), It was a hard decision, because I really liked Ross. Tuck LOVES tripod hockey. [–]GradSchool2021Investment Banking 0 points1 point2 points 13 days ago (2 children). I visited both recently and they had very different students(Tuck was clearly very close knit, but I could tell right away I didn't fit in, Yale was super international while Tuck seemed mostly NESCAC Americans). Lmao this is the same ranking that put HBS at #6 yet nobody thinks HBS is ranked 6th. [–]CharSiuPorkBun2nd Year Student 4 points5 points6 points 13 days ago (1 child), Interview slots. I'm very intrigued by Yale SOM and would like to hear people's thoughts on this. [–]JimmyGodoppoloAdmit 26 points27 points28 points 2 years ago (21 children). Audrey Hosford ’21 Undergraduate education: B.S. Get feedback from our experts and your fellow applicants! Only internationally. The Yale parent brand will go further than Dartmouth's. They're peer schools. I didn't even bother applying to Tuck because I simply was not attracted to spending 2 years in Hanover, nor the over emphasis on 'close-knit' community, which I (possibly unfairly) feel is a by-product of being stuck in the middle of nowhere. Have under 3 Years of Post-College Work Experience, Have 3-10 Years of Post-College Work Experience, Have 10+ Years of Post-College Work Experience. Recruiters when they come to Hanover, are in Hanover and aren’t doing much else, so you have a little more access. Next, a more senior admissions officer conducts a second read. I recently chose Tuck over Kellogg, Ross, and Darden (after waffling back and forth for weeks). The Yale School of Management (SOM) aims to “educate leaders for business and society” through purpose, passion and accountability. I wish every school would put number of hires for different companies on their employment reports. At the Yale School of Management, the purpose is to do something.. The two programs are very similar in terms of opportunities. I feel like that's a no, [–]R2Applicant 9 points10 points11 points 2 years ago (4 children), I got into both and have done tons of research. Happy to chat, so feel free to DM me if you'd like! The winters are a little longer and there’s a lot more snow. Have you visited them? Have run into quite a few people from Tuck and have been impressed. I arrived back in New Haven on Saturday evening after three weeks of traveling through the north of Mexico and Texas. There are plenty of non-sports activities for you to meet your classmates, so I wouldn't worry too much about that. As a current student at one of the two schools, pick whichever one you'll thrive at. Nevertheless, Tuck is better for your career aspirations and conditions, imo. Idgaf if you don’t believe me. As this is the case, there is no specialized International Business degree available at Yale. Anyone have any advice? [–]iamspartacus5339MBA Grad 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (0 children). Although the process varies from school to school, it usually includes checking that an applicant attended the undergraduate (or graduate) school(s) that he or she claims to have attended, received the grades indicated and earned the GMAT score reported. Do not make this decision on consulting recruiting that would be incredibly short sighted and dumb. Email som.aasl@yale.edu if you are having issues accessing groups on CampusGroups. I can definitely see the pros and cons of each school, especially the differences between the two cities, [–]powereddeath 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children). The MBA degree provides candidates with the tools, skills, networks and opportunities to advance their current career or switch their career path in a new direction. I'm not exactly sure what I want to do post-MBA, but I am interested in entrepreneurship and consulting (though not married to either). Also not sure how it would play into Tuck's favor if this was true, given relatively smaller alum networks. The students also were super cliquey and wouldn't talk to us prospies, whereas at HBS/Wharton/SOM the students went out of their way to talk to us. Tuck is a stronger brand and has more alums in MBB. The value of the network cannot be overemphasized. Also happy to connect you with folks in the industry. If you did, that's important. [–]nicky009p 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (3 children), [–]KOUI[S] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (2 children), [–]nicky009p 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (0 children), But honestly Tuck has historically been an incredibly strong program compared to Yale which is good but much of their success has happened in the recent years and it’s not clear whether or not he will hold with their rockstar dean gone, [–]hjohns23M7 Student 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children). All things being equal, I would pick the program that is consistently ranked higher, has better name recognition, etc. Pm me if you want to discuss, and I will update my decision on the R2 thread when I decide. Tuck for the strong support network. The assistant dean approves them all, but definitely trusts the readers. This translates super well for those who want to get into consulting. Also Hanover is minimum 90 min drive to the nearest airport (Manchester) and 2 hours from Boston. Much of the discussion on this sub is splitting hairs - IMO below HSW and above Cornell or so, spots 4- ~12-13, you're gonna get the same opportunities and interviews you would regardless (actually, that is true at HSW too, to an extent, although more PE/VC opps). Columbia is the better/more prestigious program, but there are plenty of situations where it would make sense to just take the money at Yale. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 24904 on r2-app-0bdfe764d6383e185 at 2020-12-24 20:18:38.181657+00:00 running 6abf2be country code: NL. I'm Dan, a SOM '16 grad and wanted to congratulate you on your two amazing offers! Sure Yale is awesome, but if hardly any alumni are in your industry, then that’s very useful. I wouldn't rely on the Yale undergrad network as being part of your SOM network, although Yale SOM's marketing heavily relies on their undergrad brand rep. Popular opinion would say that Tuck is going to have a better alumni network than Yale. Is a university extension program good to have before applying for MBA? Getting into those firms is HEAVY networking so that plays into the favor of Tuck. Background checks involve the verification of information that a candidate has provided in his or her MBA applications. [–]MinuteDirector0M7 Student 16 points17 points18 points 14 days ago (0 children). You should visit both and figure out for yourself where you fit. Welcome to The School Subscription Platform for Yale SOM. You have a hard choice, but either way, you win! and LOL @ beer hockey. Pepes is amazing. Not everyone goes to committee. Can anyone comment on culture and experience (ie will it be fun) at Johnson? [–]RyVsWorld 7 points8 points9 points 14 days ago (2 children), Why do you think your athletic ability has any impact on your ability to enjoy a top bschool, [–]Chip_Paladin 7 points8 points9 points 14 days ago (1 child). Did you feel a markedly better fit with SOM? Is Tuck really that much better than SOM to not consider scholarship? I've heard that 50% of people that recruit consulting at Yale don't get it, about 25% get MBB, and about 25% get other. [–]KOUI[S] 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (6 children). So with just this, Yale is a clear choice. Pros 1. Then, if both agree on the decision, it likely stands. I went to a NESCAC but 2 more years at Tuck would've been too much more, whereas Yale's non-profit heritage was a big draw. The quality of connections is as important as the number of alumni, though. in computer science with a minor in creative writing from Northwestern University Pre-SOM experience: Five years at General Motors in Roswell, Georgia (one and half years as a software developer, one and a half years as a requirements analyst, and two years as a systems analyst) Summer internship: Product manager at Microsoft, Unlike traditional, boring “courses,” ours…Read Article Not sure where to lean on this one. Get feedback from our experts and your fellow applicants! [–]Klaud91st Year 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children). I've heard that 50% of people that recruit consulting at Yale don't get it, about 25% get MBB, and about 25% get other. Given the momentum of Yale’s School of Management, however, it could very well become HSY in the not too distant future.At the very least, SOM has crashed the M7 party, the term used to describe the magnificent seven best MBA programs in the world. I'm not super athletic, so I think I'd be better off at Yale since I don't know how to ski or play hockey. You'll be successful at both, but I think definitive opinions are better than generic speak. Pick Yale and make way for Wair listed candidates at Tuck! All posts must be tagged with an appropriate flair the reflects the post's content. “I could really use a break,” I thought to myself, on the penultimate day of our spring break. [–]powereddeath 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children), Think of them as two separate alumni circles, [–]Paraleia 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (1 child), Coming from someone interested in both schools, I’m very very interested in where you end up if you don’t care putting it in the back of your mind to do an update post, [–]KOUI[S] 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children), [–]JimmyGodoppoloAdmit 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago* (6 children). Yale was appealing because of two main factors. They’re both great schools. They offered some concrete insights about the “perfect applicant” to Yale SOM. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. There’s a lot of bars, restaurants and infrastructure in New Haven that makes it feel like you’re in a city. Yale I think has a more accomplished network (across the university I mean), but Tuck's supposedly very tight knit. If you ever fall on hard times or seeking the next big thing, having a very Helpful network like Kellogg or Tuck would be comforting. Plenty of people do neither and fit in just fine. A Yale SOM Student’s Perspectives on Social Sector Consulting Firms Many would also like to support social and/or environmental causes that are important to them. Yeah I guess one of the questions I am trying to answer is how helpful is the broader Yale (non-SOM) network to SOM-ers? I’ve found that hockey is even more integral to the experience at Yale than at tuck for what it’s worth. * Please note for the 2020 - 2021 academic year, given the pandemic, SOM has allowed GBS students to join any club at Yale SOM. It accepts the Common Application, Coalition Application, and QuestBridge Application. I hear a lot about how tight-knit Tuck's alumni network is-- is it THAT much better than other top MBA networks? Looking to chat with other applicants, current students, or alumni? Generic questions about the MBA application process -- including any questions from people who are still in school or haven't taken the GMAT -- should go in the "Weekly MBA Questions Thread". CT is still a fairly outdoorsy place, with some good hiking spots, people planning trips to Acadia or to go skiing, but it definitely isn't as dominant of a thing as in NH. Please note this server is unaffiliated with /r/MBA . Stanford, which has led or tied for the lead in each of the past four years, was the only school to record a 165 average in the Quant section this year and one of only two schools, along with Yale School of Management, to notch a Verbal 165. The mission of the Yale SOm Consulting Club is to create an inclusive, collaborative and fun environment that prepares members for consulting careers while championing the som community to the consulting industry. I would highly recommend Tuck. In 2014, Yale got nearly 31,000 applicants and accepted a mere 6.3 percent of them.) I think business people would be more impressed w/ Tuck but lay people would be more impressed with Yale. We always hear these anecdotes that Yale isn’t the best at consulting, but I would think that data don’t lie and will provide the clearest picture. It’s easier for recruiting IB as far as commute to NYC goes. [–]daninDE 2 points3 points4 points 13 days ago (0 children). What schools should I be targeting? Do MBA extracurriculars & grades matter for Tech PM recruiting? Haas naturally has more west coast placement, SOM east coast. Luckily that’s not the actual case. Source: https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings, [–]sordidbunny66 7 points8 points9 points 13 days ago* (0 children). Link to the frameworks etc https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s7h0bo668fp7dlf/AAA8aShPSL2ub1ZdSh7LajVPa?dl=0 Last week, Yale School of Management posted timely MBA admissions advice straight from current first-year students, AKA Admissions Ambassadors. I'm coming from a NESCAC with Tuck as my top choice, curious as to why you felt that way? That 50% just completely failing terrifies me. Probably not. For example, Yale places extremely well in consulting. Have hardly ever encountered any Yale SOM people anywhere (a friend of mine went there but his case was a little unusual). It's more of the opposite: getting into these firms is a heavily structured process. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. I make $400K/yr but I'm going to lose my job early next year. In our recent visit to the newly opened Evans Hall, we had the opportunity to sit down with Assistant Dean and Director of Admissions Bruce DelMonico and members of his staff about admission to Yale SOM. Would you mind trying to explain the differences? Let me know if you have any specific questions that I can try to answer. I'd say that a majority if not everybody who was truly serious about consulting ended up getting an offer. Also as an international candidate who in the long term plans to return back to their home country, Yale has a broader brand recognition ? I’d personally choose tuck, but want to give Yale the benefit of the doubt on the consulting picture. I've heard Tuck also places better into my non-consulting back up plan, LDP's. Is it actually impossible to get into a top tier MBA after audit in the big 4? Tuck has a 90% finance placement rate of those actually recruiting for finance. It was hard for me to understand the career advancement at stake while I was making my decision. I'm curious - What numbers are you talking about? Some head to business school to learn something. Hey There u/FATMANFROMFUTURE! Tuck and Yale. [–]virtu333 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (4 children). But that's just me, and that's the whole point of fit. I applied to H/S/W, MIT, and Yale, with a focus on healthcare. Generic questions about the MBA application process -- including any questions from people who are still in school or haven't taken the GMAT -- should go in the "Weekly MBA Questions Thread". Contact us at club-consulting@som.yale.edu Tuck does that better with consulting and LDPs - and Tuckies are some of the best people around. Do you want to impress a dinner party by telling them you work for Goldman/McKinsey or do you want to impress them by telling them you go to Yale? I had 3.5/740, worked as a manufacturing engineer at an F150. [–]R2Applicant 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children), They do hockey at SOM too, but yes, the hockey fanatics should prefer Tuck haha. [–]KOUI[S] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (3 children). For culture, the sort of non-profit heritage of SOM is still really influential in terms of the interests/backgrounds of the students (and the vibe is that way at all the professional schools, from the law school to management to medicine), so you get a pretty different mix of student body than other b-schools - the bankers and consultants that do go are of a different flavor too. Hope I’m lucky enough to join you in 2019! Talk to alumni, current students and get a feel for the culture, and see if you'd fit in. Also when recruiters visit SOM it’s possible that they might be there for a few hours and then head back to the city. Please join the group or contact the Club Leaders via CampusGroups. Also Tuckies will generally hang out with other Tuckies so that’s how you get that tight knit cohort. Yale School of Management. Frameworks available: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s7h0bo668fp7dlf/AAA8aShPSL2ub1ZdSh7LajVPa?dl=0 [–]NTSpikeT15 Student 6 points7 points8 points 14 days ago* (0 children). [–]johnnybarbs92 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago* (3 children). I probably should have noted I have zero interest in finance and some other "MBA specific" areas, which influenced my choices. Have under 3 Years of Post-College Work Experience, Have 3-10 Years of Post-College Work Experience, Have 10+ Years of Post-College Work Experience, https://www.reddit.com/r/MBA/comments/eg5h0z/anyone_else_not_a_huge_fan_of_tuck/, https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings. [–]rrdkentMBA Grad 1 point2 points3 points 9 days ago (0 children). The issue is the most important thing is recruiting, and I think Tuck is much stronger at consulting recruiting than Yale. I could do 8 more years there. If no, go to Yale, easy. This past summer, a group of intrepid Yale SOM students set off on cross-country consulting journeys designed to give small entrepreneurs a leg up. Are they generally receptive to SOM students? What really matters is what school brings out the best in you, and where you want to spend 2 years of your life/the people you want to have in your network for the next 50 years of your life. Dan Kurber is a current 1st-year MBA candidate at the Yale School of Management. Personally, I would go with Tuck. Please enjoy using the Management Consulted resources. Idk what people are smoking in this thread. What about SOM($$$) vs Tuck? Sure Tuck places a couple rankings better, but they’re pretty much the same tier, no? [–]superna5505 14 points15 points16 points 14 days ago (0 children). Compared to Yale's 50% success rate (that you provided),~75% of those who recruit consulting at Tuck ends up with an offer over two years. It also involves the verification of the candidate’s employment history, job titles, starting and ending dates and salary/bonus information. This post about Yale SOM and management consulting is part of a series of interviews of top MBA programs called “MBA Career Goals and the B-Schools that Support Them.”Please subscribe to our blog to ensure that you receive all the interviews exploring the elements at each school that support career goals in finance, consulting, general management, entrepreneurship, marketing and more. This access is valid from June 28, 2017 – August 4, 2017. Unlike traditional, boring “courses,” ours…Read Article The program looks for students who are self-motivated and have a guided sense of purpose. Culturally, I'd strongly prefer Yale. So with just this, Yale is a clear choice. Offers accepted? Create a free employer account in 12Twenty, the career management system at Yale SOM. It's established and has a great reputation whereas Yale most definitely lags in that regard. [–]virtu333 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (2 children). [–]tingtongtony 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children). The mission of Yale SOM's Energy Club is to keep abreast of business, economic, policy, politics and regulatory issues in the energy sector, inclusive of traditional oil & gas, renewables, and everything in between. Consulting Club. The third round of MBA applications is notorious for having a lower acceptance rate.